Prior to buying my new eee pc, I thought I'd finally gotten the ol' Linux thing figured out. I liked having a desktop chock full of bells and whistles and visual effects and nautilus-integrated apps. I used Mint with the AWN dock and a truckload of Compiz Fusion effects on my enormous, relatively-powerful laptop, and it did every single thing I could think of for it to do.
Then I got the eee, which is handy for things like conferences because of its exceptional battery life (and here, I'm talking about the 1000HE). Naturally, it came with Windows XP, and naturally, I barely had it on by the time I had dived into research into what distro to use to replace it.
I ran through a few: the Ubuntu Netbook Remix, which didn't work with the peculiarly-kitted 1000HE (even Jaunty!); Easy Peasy, which worked fairly well but still had flaky hardware support, but most importantly and most paradigm-shiftingly, I used Cruncheee (http://crunchbanglinux.org).
Crunchbang Linux is a really, really fantastic distro. I can't possibly recommend it highly enough. It's clean, thoughtful, and aesthetically pleasing in a minimalist way. Unfortunately, Cruncheee had the same problems in dealing with the eccentric hardware of the 1000HE compared to the other eee models.
Once I had a taste of that Openbox magic, though, I couldn't get away. After hearing about Mandriva's 2009.1 release, which was built with notebooks particularly in mind (as well as with a host of other improvements, naturally), I decided to give it a whirl.
Mandriva's GNOME release has a frankly alarming amount of goodies, and I enjoy drak tools folded into the distro. The hardware support for the 1000HE was perfect--perhaps due to the fact that it came out a few weeks after Jaunty's UNR edition, or perhaps Mandriva simply deals better with hardware this time around. Either way, I was extremely pleased, but the speed seemed just a bit lacking.
Mandriva, of course, offers a great idea when you're dealing with netbooks--use LXDE (which, of course, uses Openbox as its window manager). The LXDE implementation in the task-lxde metapackage in Mandriva is pretty gnome-like, apart from the obvious (PCMan instead of Nautilus, but mostly you still use GTK apps), but with a little bit of configuration, you can end up with something fairly Crunchbang-esque.

It's snappy, it's clean and it's tiny. The hardware is supported through-and-through--right down to the fairly notoriously quirky webcam included in the 1000HE.
I've decided to remove my Mint partition on the larger desktop and replace it with Crunchbang. The fact that you can right-click on the desktop or throw down a keyboard shortcut and get access to the menu is one that has changed my whole computing experience (even though, I know, it's been easy to do that on a lot of DEs for some time). I can't even imagine mousing over to a start button or even to a dock any more. I feel so much more efficient and productive, and all the while, I get to enjoy an almost stark minimalist aesthetic. Nice!
When was the exact moment I realized I'd fallen for Openbox? I guess when I realized that while my Mint desktop did everything I could think of for it to do, so did my LXDE desktop.
If you're interested in doing something similar with your Mandriva installation, I'll include a few links below.
Window decoration:
http://www.box-look.org/content/show.php/Laza?content=64954
GTK 2+ theme:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/gommapiuma+looks+(gummina+mod)?content=69913
Wallpaper:
Can't remember where I found it; if you know, let me know.
http://jonnydover.com/images/ice-comet.jpg
I hope you'll fall in love with Openbox's elegant simplicity, but even if you don't think you'll like it, I suggest you try it out. It might give you a new perspective in configuring your other environments.
Wed, 06/17/2009 - 18:38
excellent. I was also quite impressed by the look and feel of #! linux when I recently evaluated it on my new msi wind u123. However, I also had a couple of hardware issues that kept me from installing it. Have you tried any other minimal WM's? I used to use XFCE pretty exclusively, with AWN. Never much cared for the compiz effects, though. Enlightenment (e17, or even e16) is lightweight and pretty, although not exactly visually minimal, by default.
Thu, 07/09/2009 - 14:54
I used to use XFCE with the AWN dock, too. Weird. If you really don't want to have to bother with compiz, the Toybox plugin (the one that displays the icons of active apps) combined with a few choice launchers in a large panel at the center-bottom of the screen should be a fairly capable replacement.
I've tried the minimal WMs that come with a couple of different distros--Puppy comes with Joe's WM, which feels too limiting, IceWM used to come with Vector Linux, but I hate the way it seems to push you toward a Windows-like setup.
Crunchbang just released about two days ago the 9.04.1 version--that might help you more with your netbook, as I think Jaunty was built in part with the goal of resolving netbook hardware issues in mind.
Sat, 05/09/2009 - 10:28
tell us how you got Mandriva onto the ASUS: I have found the Ubuntu family easy to evaluate on SD cards, using the Ubuntu create USB or SD facility; pleased you found Mandriva so good
Mon, 05/11/2009 - 02:51
Mandriva has done a 'hybrid iso'. You can just unzip it onto a USB stick and boot it the same way you would with ubuntu on a jump drive. That's another nifty trick I wish some other distros would pick up on.
Fri, 05/08/2009 - 22:11
Jonny,
Great review for Openbox, I could very well have written it myself! I recently bought a refurbished IBM Thinkpad T42, that came with Ubuntu 8.04 preinstalled. I knew even before I received it that I would be replacing Ubuntu. I tried a whole lot of distros on it, including Linux Mint XFCE and Fluxbox, AntiX, VectorLinux Light, Debian Gnome and LXDE. I kept coming back to Crunchbang.
I would have probably stuck with a Debian Gnome/Openbox combo, but had issues getting the sound to work. With Crunchbang, everything just works, and fast! I am now a huge fan of Openbox, and can't imagine using Gnome or KDE -- they just feel sluggish.
The only thing that I might possibly use instead would be Knoppix 6 with LXDE, which also runs quite well on my T42, but I love the Crunchbang experience so much, I just don't see the need to switch. I thought about trying the Mandriva LXDE, but as they don't seem to have it as a separate disk or option to install on the front end, I can't bring myself to tolerate having to install a full Gnome or KDE desktop, before I can get to an LXDE installation. Call me crazy! They really should offer it as a separate ISO, or the option to install it INSTEAD of Gnome or KDE.
Fri, 05/08/2009 - 21:30
I have had two experiences similar to yours (trying to configure a very old Dell Inspiron with 800 MHz Celeron and 256K of RAM, and a very new Thoshiba with 2.4 GHz Athlon and 3GB of RAM) -- Ubuntu, Mint, et al., including CrunchBang which is based on Ubuntu, wouldn't run correctly due to video problems, while Mandriva and PCLinuxOS which is based on Mandriva worked just fine out of the box. On the old Dell, I never did get the right screen resolution with any variety of Ubuntu, even after scouring the Ubuntu forums and getting a number of helpful suggestions on the CrunchBang forum. On the new Toshiba, I needed to do too much work with Ubuntu and Mint for a supposedly user-friendly OS, to get the correct screen resolution. But Mandriva and PCLinuxOS just work.
Fri, 05/08/2009 - 21:14
I too have recently discovered Openbox (previously Gnome) and I know exactly how you feel. A minimalist desktop is so refreshing, plus you also save all that RAM too!
Fri, 05/08/2009 - 19:26
Could you not get a similar effect by installing minimal Debian with LXDE and PCManFM?
Mon, 05/11/2009 - 02:52
Absolutely, but Mandriva worked a bit better out-of-the-box without a truckload of customization. I didn't want to spend a ton of time tweaking and working out kinks.
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